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Rabid Weasel · Aug 02, 2005, 01:17 PM // 13:17

Anyway... back on topic.

I agree i have noticed a lot more mature people these days in the random area. When i first started PVP with my mesmer i would get people saying "OMG we have a Mesmer, we LOSE".... Now it's "Ace, we have a mesmer!"

I always start the game with a "GL all" and "GG" at the end. Even tho in Tombs recently i've had some rubbish replies back which have been from all three areas, even from teams in my own area, Europe. The friendly banter is what i like in tombs, when your rare enough to find it!

Santanus_Perro · Aug 02, 2005, 01:42 PM // 13:42

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Originally Posted by Lord Malikai

So sick of arrogant Euro-trash talking shit about Americans like they are so much better than us. Screw you.

The guy you are responding to is from New Zealand. Hints for you: "G'day Mate", country where LoTR was filmed, south of the equator. In other words, if you are going to flame, at least know your geography. New Zealand is part of the Australian continent, not Europe. No where near each other in fact.

Tellani Artini · Aug 02, 2005, 03:27 PM // 15:27

I only say gg when I lose.

It's always frustrating to be put on a team with clueless people and see the clueless w/mo on the other team say "pwned" after his victory, when you know that in fact he couldn't pwn a fly without his half-decent teammates. All I can say is "grin and bear it." You know the score, and he will learn it once he comes up against a decent team.

Another thread about politeness turns into geopolitical bashing.

MSecorsky · Aug 02, 2005, 04:08 PM // 16:08

Interesting thought... what we have here is a clash of two generations. The first (and obvious) is the kids. Todays kids are brought up playing computer games, it's a natural extension of themselves. Then there's the first generation, of which I'm a part of. Hey, I'm 40, family guy, blah blah... I can also remember playing my first "computer" game, Pong.

If you're too young to remember Pong, you're not in this generation.

As a rule (to which there are always exceptions), first gen players are more mature (well crap, we're older for one thing) and we grew up playing long before the "l33t" generation formed in the womb. The younger gens don't remember a day before computers and games and tend to treat it a little differently.

Crap, I wonder what ever happened to my old 8088 with it's 20 meg hard drive and monochromatic monitor?

Just an observation, feel free to dismantle it.

rii · Aug 02, 2005, 04:32 PM // 16:32

Well i remember pong, but i wasnt alive to play it. I suppose im half way, i know and am capable of tolerating the 1337sters, and occasionally use it in jest, but prefer maturer outlooks, since it is tiresome.

Arvydas · Aug 02, 2005, 04:48 PM // 16:48

I didn't play Pong, but I'm the generation in between

I still remember my dad's old 80286 and starting games in DOS.

Nice to see maturity is back. Maybe it's time for me to try PvP.

hydrak · Aug 02, 2005, 04:50 PM // 16:50

In general, most people in arenas, tombs or even gvg (although I haven't try any gvg lately because the search system takes foreever to get a random match) are polite.

All the complaints about bad behaviours usually come from people with selective attentions.

Jetai12 · Aug 02, 2005, 05:38 PM // 17:38

i am young, and american but i realize that even though this is a game and all there are still real people playing and that although some are i have to agree, well MOST younger americans are idiots (i had to say that) we should still be nice since if we're nice to them they will hopefully be nice to us... and i try to maintain that but only once in a while if someone is being a REAL jerk and saying stuff i get agrivated and maybe put them on my ignore list... or tell them to be quite...but yes i noticed the arenas are a lot more mature!

Rieselle · Aug 03, 2005, 06:17 AM // 06:17

I dunno - could it be socio-economic factors?

Maybe it's watching too much american tv or something, but it seems to me that there are plenty of idiotic immature racist asshole *adults* in the U.S. (and elsewhere) too. However, given that the U.S. is a richer nation and pc's are a more accepted form of entertainment, and internet access is more available, maybe these poorer, uneducated people in the U.S. are more likely to play online PC games than poorer, uneducated people elsewhere? Certainly here in Australia, most of the people who are sufficiently nerdlike enough to play an online RPG and have a good PC are probably mostly late high school, uni students, or professionals. The asshole people are all drinking at the pub every night and beating their wives or whatever it is they do, not playing online games.

I'm not suggesting that richer, more educated people are nicer or are better people (I dont believe that and neither should you

, I'm just saying that they tend to self-censor a little more. And I'm saying that, maybe, in the U.S., a greater variety of people play online games and therefore we tend to get exposed to jerks a lot more from there.

Do we have any korean speaking people here? I'd be really interested in what a korean GW forum looks like... do they have the same amount of ranting and raving as the english forums? What sorts of things do they talk about?

Lord Malikai · Aug 03, 2005, 06:21 AM // 06:21

There is a difference between being immature and finally just getting sick of all the American bashing that happens online. It's everywhere, rampant and growing. I used to ignore it, laugh at it, whatever. Now, after years of being tolerant of it, it just makes me angry. It's all basic generalization, people listen to crap on their TV's in their own countries about us and then put all Americans into the same categorie. The most amazing thing is the people who say, "Americans believe everything they see on T.V.". Meanwhile, they themselves learned that from their own television set. Kinda ironic.

And no, I won't shut up. They are wrong to generalize in topics such as this. They opened their mouths and said something prejudiced and I am to blame for making a "positive" post go bad ? In fact, they should apologize for making such an absurd statement without numbers or actual facts to backup such remarks.

Winterclaw · Aug 03, 2005, 06:27 AM // 06:27

Hmm, maybe I'll try out the random arenas again. I quit playing them for awhile after I met some rushers in ascalon, but if things are getting better, maybe I'll try them out again with my newer Warrior.

Xomah of Denyle · Aug 03, 2005, 12:57 PM // 12:57

I agree.
Yesterday, a long GvG fight went on for around 45 minutes between our guild and a European one, I couldn't believe how mature and positive the comments were, stuff like: "You guys are good" and "you are too", jokes like "someone give up, I'm tired" etc.. Regardless of us losing the fight, we did all have loads of fun, which is imo the main purpose of the game.

Winterclaw: is that a chocobo as your avatar? Love it.

Winterclaw · Aug 03, 2005, 02:20 PM // 14:20

Xomah, yep.

Thanks.

Okay, tried the arena in ascalon. First team I go up against there is a female warrior in platemail or knights armor.

BurningPants · Aug 03, 2005, 03:04 PM // 15:04

You can simply brush off anything anyone said in the Random Arenas...who cares?

What is really annoying is in tombs when people say (in group 8v8 battles) "ALL VS KOREA" or "ALL VS EUROPE". Playing on the American servers myself I would not know if the same thing happens to Americans but the server gang mentality is stupid.

On the small scale it simply pro-longs the fight and makes things way more compliacted then they should be. But in the grander scheme of things its just humiliating. What's even worse is when people call me a traitor for disagreeing with their anti Korean/European focus.

Luckly in most cases these groups get slaughtered by the very people they plan to gang up on, so its Karma FTW, but still disrespectful.

Maude · Aug 03, 2005, 03:47 PM // 15:47

Maybe I was lucky until now or maybe because I started playing around 1 month ago, I always found nice people in random arenas. I can only remember of a rude person saying: “we are the best team!” after winning some games; when we were losing, the person started writing: “REZ MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE U N00B” “U SUCK” etc.
But it was just a person on many teams I played with.
On one of my first PvP games in random arenas, I found a player called Katerina (I think…), and it was very funny, because he/she was always killing me… and on the next match, I was on the enemy team against Katerina. For 3 times, if I remember right. And there was always a nice comment: Hi Maude

. And me replying: oh no, you again!

Mr. Matt · Aug 03, 2005, 04:08 PM // 16:08

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Originally Posted by Lord Malikai

There is a difference between being immature and finally just getting sick of all the American bashing that happens online. It's everywhere, rampant and growing. I used to ignore it, laugh at it, whatever. Now, after years of being tolerant of it, it just makes me angry. It's all basic generalization, people listen to crap on their TV's in their own countries about us and then put all Americans into the same categorie. The most amazing thing is the people who say, "Americans believe everything they see on T.V.". Meanwhile, they themselves learned that from their own television set. Kinda ironic.

And no, I won't shut up. They are wrong to generalize in topics such as this. They opened their mouths and said something prejudiced and I am to blame for making a "positive" post go bad ? In fact, they should apologize for making such an absurd statement without numbers or actual facts to backup such remarks.

Well, if you must explode with uncontrollable rage, at least aim it in the right direction next time.

Fatalis · Aug 03, 2005, 04:17 PM // 16:17

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Originally Posted by Maude

On one of my first PvP games in random arenas, I found a player called Katerina (I think…), and it was very funny, because he/she was always killing me…

If somebody manages to kill you multiple times with the same build, it really says something about you as a player.

Kishin · Aug 03, 2005, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by Fatalis

If somebody manages to kill you multiple times with the same build, it really says something about you as a player.

He did say it was one of his first matches.

Furthermore, sometimes, things just work that way because of the way two opposing builds interact with one another. The 500th time you throw Rock against your opponent's Paper, Rock doesn't mysteriously win.

Maude · Aug 03, 2005, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by Fatalis

If somebody manages to kill you multiple times with the same build, it really says something about you as a player.

Well, Fatalis, maybe you are right. I am not a great player, and I am certainly not as good(?) as you are. But one thing I know is that I respect all my opponents and team mates, even when I find someone who doesn't play as good(?) as I do

When I mentioned Katerina on my PvP radom arena games, I tried to show that even when someone is winning and another one is losing, there are persons who can show maturity. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear on my explanation, but english is not my first language.

My effort is only one: to enjoy the game. And I can do that without your help, I guess

generik · Aug 03, 2005, 08:18 PM // 20:18

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Originally Posted by Lord Malikai

So sick of arrogant Euro-trash talking shit about Americans like they are so much better than us. Screw you.

Fact is they are, oh.. and they probably have better schools, more stable economies, and more well mannered than those Amerikansi...